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	<title>Comments on: Testing Ping Times from an Outside Source</title>
	<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ...Corey?</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-10182</link>
		<dc:creator>...Corey?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey:

Reduce the attack surface?

We're talking about telnet client, not telnetd...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey:</p>
<p>Reduce the attack surface?</p>
<p>We're talking about telnet client, not telnetd...</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan McLaren</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-10055</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-10055</guid>
		<description>....Linux?  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>....Linux?  <img src='http://blog.netnerds.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Elmo M.</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-658</link>
		<dc:creator>Elmo M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-658</guid>
		<description>By default, Telnet is not installed on Vista. However follow these steps and you're back in business.

1. Click Start then select Control Panel.

2. Select Programs and Features.

3. Select Turn Windows features on or off.

4. Select the Telnet Client option.

5. Click OK.

6. A dialog box will appear to confirm installation. The telnet command should now be available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By default, Telnet is not installed on Vista. However follow these steps and you're back in business.</p>
<p>1. Click Start then select Control Panel.</p>
<p>2. Select Programs and Features.</p>
<p>3. Select Turn Windows features on or off.</p>
<p>4. Select the Telnet Client option.</p>
<p>5. Click OK.</p>
<p>6. A dialog box will appear to confirm installation. The telnet command should now be available.</p>
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		<title>By: derwood</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>derwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-657</guid>
		<description>Hola Chrissy,
  Just an FYI, you can also ping from an external source from http://www.dnsstuff.com.  They also have a traceroute tool.  Its quite a useful site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hola Chrissy,<br />
  Just an FYI, you can also ping from an external source from <a href="http://www.dnsstuff.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.dnsstuff.com.</a>  They also have a traceroute tool.  Its quite a useful site.</p>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-656</guid>
		<description>Zed,
Haha I'd love to see an API for it.

Corey,
Yeah, this is a fresh install of Vista Ultimate and it didn't have telnet. As someone said on Shamit's blog (and I agree) &lt;blockquote&gt;I don't like this idea. Telnet is often used as a quick way to troubleshoot client-side connectivity issues (ensure ports are open and so on). Telnet is 75K, so I hardly think the reduction in footprint is meaningful to anyone with a machine capable of running Vista. As far as surface area... if there's no telnet:// URI prefix registered, I'd think that'd cut down significantly (who uses telnet URIs anyways?).&lt;/blockquote&gt;I just tried portqry but it's not something that's built-in :&#124; I like built in stuff.. some things should just be reliable. Like ping and telnet.

Portqry looks interesting.. it has a GUI too. Thanks for the tip :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zed,<br />
Haha I'd love to see an API for it.</p>
<p>Corey,<br />
Yeah, this is a fresh install of Vista Ultimate and it didn't have telnet. As someone said on Shamit's blog (and I agree)<br />
<blockquote>I don't like this idea. Telnet is often used as a quick way to troubleshoot client-side connectivity issues (ensure ports are open and so on). Telnet is 75K, so I hardly think the reduction in footprint is meaningful to anyone with a machine capable of running Vista. As far as surface area... if there's no <a href="telnet://" rel="nofollow">telnet://</a> URI prefix registered, I'd think that'd cut down significantly (who uses telnet URIs anyways?).</p></blockquote>
<p>I just tried portqry but it's not something that's built-in <img src='http://blog.netnerds.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> I like built in stuff.. some things should just be reliable. Like ping and telnet.</p>
<p>Portqry looks interesting.. it has a GUI too. Thanks for the tip <img src='http://blog.netnerds.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-655</guid>
		<description>Telnet is installed for me in Vista Ultimate. This was an upgrade from XP Pro, maybe that's why.

I think I'm in favor of "reducing the attack surface", my parents don't need telnet.

Besides I use portqry for 90% of the things I used to use telnet for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telnet is installed for me in Vista Ultimate. This was an upgrade from XP Pro, maybe that's why.</p>
<p>I think I'm in favor of "reducing the attack surface", my parents don't need telnet.</p>
<p>Besides I use portqry for 90% of the things I used to use telnet for.</p>
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		<title>By: Zed A. Shaw</title>
		<link>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-654</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed A. Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.netnerds.net/2007/03/testing-ping-times-from-an-outside-source/#comment-654</guid>
		<description>Holy crap I knew there was a reason I put your blog in my rss reader.  That's about the most useful thing I've seen in a while.  Thanks a bunch.

Now to just write an API for it. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap I knew there was a reason I put your blog in my rss reader.  That's about the most useful thing I've seen in a while.  Thanks a bunch.</p>
<p>Now to just write an API for it. <img src='http://blog.netnerds.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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